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Greenleaks: Interview mit Gründer Scott Millwood – „Wir sind anders als Wikileaks“

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Erhält Wikileaks sogar den Friedensnobelpreis in diesem Jahr? Noch sind sich die höheren akademischen Meriten keineswegs einig, ob dies nicht ein unerhörter Schritt wäre, einem solch umstrittenen Projekt auch noch zu einem offiziellem Ritterschlag zu verhelfen.  Dabei zieht die Karawane längst weiter, das Grundprinzip lässt sich diversifizieren.

Es gibt viele Wikileaks und Openleaks. Das Prinzip, intransparente Abläufe und Strukturen durch Netzplattformen ans Tageslicht zu fördern, lässt sich nahezu beliebig auf jeden gesellschaftlichen, politischen und wirtschaftlichen Sektor übertragen.

Die „Leaks“ hängen sich quasi wie ein gespiegeltes Rechenzentrum an die originale Datenverarbeitung eines Urhebers an.

Aber mehr noch: Sie bleiben nicht passiv, sondern sie senden Signale in die Welt hinaus, und sie verlassen damit die informative Black Box. Die Leaks brechen die Informationsasymmetrie auf, wenngleich manche intellektuellen Kleingeister darin eine Art anarchischen Urzustand herauf ziehen sehen, der die Menschheit in ihren demokratischen Grundfesten erschüttern könnte.

Irgendwie klingen derartige Debatten reichlich albern, manche klammern sich an ihr kleines Machtrevier und ihre Pfründe mit intellektuellen Reflexzonen. Aber die Welt und mit ihr die Menschen entwickeln sich weiter. Sogar auf jedes Unternehmen und jede einzelne Person lässt sich das Leaks-Prinzip anwenden. 

Sicherlich, es gibt auch Grenzen – der Schutz gewisser Daten- und Persönlichkeitsrechte muss abgewogen und im Zweifelsfall gewahrt bleiben.  Was aber wäre passiert, hätte es keine Informationen im Netz zum Bohrloch von BP im Golf von Mexiko gegeben? Wenn wir nur CNN und andere Mainstream-Kanäle gehabt hätten?

Hier kommt gerade den grünen Leaks eine große Verantwortung zu. Die Akteure müssen lernen, mit ihrer Macht, genauer: Verantwortung, sinnvoll umzugehen. Die dunkle Seite soll nicht mit ihnen sein.  Man sollte vor dieser Entwicklung des Entblätterns einer Gesellschaft keine allzu große Angst haben, wenn wir bisher unausgeleuchtete Stellen mit dem Laserstrahl erfassen, so überwiegen die Chancen die dezentralen Systemen innewohnenden Risiken.

Es steckt also mehr Kreativität als Chaos im Netz. Wir Deutschen sind doch die Weltmeister in der Freikörperkultur. FKK ist für alle da, so der provokative Einleitungssatz zur nun folgenden Ouverture. So auch im Bereich Umwelt.

Oder wie es der Reuters Blog titelt: Wikileaks, Openleaks, Greenleaks and more Leaks. Zu beachten gilt es, dass es mit Blick auf die Umwelt bereits zwei „Klone“ gibt. Nämlich www.greenleaks.org (in Kopenhagen) und www.greenleaks.com (in Berlin).

Man könnte sagen: Konkurrenz belebt das Geschäft, es zeigt aber auch, dass wir uns möglicherweise einer ersten Überhitzungsphase annähern, in dem sich einzelne Protagonisten in ihren jeweiligen verminten Zielgebieten ins Gehege kommen könnten.

Nachdem ich im letzten Beitrag bereits die geistige Verbindungslinie zwischen Wikileaks und dem „Umweltklon(s)“ greenleaks aufgezeigt habe, möchte ich diese Beschreibung mit einem exklusiven Interview abrunden. 

Und zwar mit Scott Millwood, dem Gründer von greenleaks.com, der nun im Gespräch mit Social Banking 2.0 Auskunft über die Zielrichtung seines Projekts erteilt.

Social Banking 2.0: Scott, how did the idea surge to found greenleaks?

Scott Millwood: There is no doubt that the world is a different place because of WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks has not only educated the world about how pure information can have a widespread political impact, but altered the relationship between the media, government, corporations and the public.

In founding GreenLeaks (http://www.greenleaks.com ) we recognised the potential for a disclosure platform that specialises in environmental information to be able to work both with traditional media to ensure that a story could reach the public, as well as with “grass-roots” environmental organisations and NGOs to ensure that environmental issues can be solved.
I lead a group who are part of an extensive international network of journalists and environmental activists. Through GreenLeaks this group is becoming “active” in order to ensure that GreenLeaks can act on a global scale.

Social Banking 2.0: What is the intention behind?

We see ourselves first and foremost as a media organisation. Our intention is to publish information that reveals the environmental impact of corporations, governments and international bodies.

We do not just intend to release information, in the manner that WikiLeaks and OpenLeaks intend to. Instead we see ourselves as being closely involved with the news-life-cycle of information. We want to transform it into stories, into graphics that assist the public in understanding complex data, to use multi-media and television to ensure that a story reaches a wide audience.

Social Banking 2.0: Which part of the green sectors will you cover, do you have specific targets and goals?

We are interested in all information that has an impact on our environment. We understand “environment” in its broadest sense. For example, we are particularly interested in receiving information about the Dioxin-Skandal, Berlin Internationaler Flughafen, Stuttgart 21, allgemeine Tierschutz and Verlängerung des Atomkraftgesetzes. We see all of these issues as being of “environmental” significance.

[Anmerkung: Scott weist im Gespräch darauf hin, dass die Worte “environment” und “environmentalism” in englischer Sprache eine breitere Bedeutung haben als die deutschen Begriffe “Umwelt” und “Umweltbewegung”. Das englische Wort sei sehr offen und betreffe viele unterschiedliche Themen].

Social Banking 2.0: What is the common ground compared to wikileaks, what are the differences?

We are different to WikiLeaks in the manner that we use information. It’s important to recognise that we have the utmost respect for what WikiLeaks has achieved – they have lead an information revolution of great social significance.

However our view is that information should not just be released into the public domain [ also nicht nur einfach veröffentlicht werden] but that we should take responsibility for managing it in many ways after it is released. We want to take a role in publishing stories interpreting and analysing information. We want to transform information into visual medium, whether graphics, films, documentaries etc.

And we want to take a role in facilitating environmental groups and NGOs in then using both the original information and these multi-medium to lead their own campaigns.
So we are not just interested in what Julian Assange calls an obligation to release information for the historical record. We are very interested in outcomes. And this is what we mean, when we say on the GreenLeaks.com homepage, that we “follow our stories through to fruition”.

Social Banking 2.0: What are the next actions to be planned?

We are currently establishing a range of international post-boxes for people in all parts of the world to use. We are building a secure electronic “drop-box” in Iceland, where the Icelandic laws are very good at protecting data and identities.

And we want to tell our story to the public simply so that they know that when they come across a piece of information in their workplace that horrifies them – when they have the feeling that “the public should know about this” or “this is not right” – that there is a legitimate and safe way of ensuring this information is released publicly. That is visit greenleaks.com and consider sending it to us. Knowing that we will then manage this information carefully and ensure that it has a political impact.

Social Banking 2.0: You are also from Australia like Julian Assange, is that a casual coincidence?

I don’t personally know Julian Assange, although I admire him greatly. Although I am from Australia originally I have lived a long time in Germany and consider it my “Wahlheimat”.
It may be possible to draw analagies with Julian, in that we share certain Australian qualities, but I would say that Berlin has influenced me much more. Berlin is a place where one can follow grand ideas into fruition; where one can develop more radically intellectual and philosophical positions; and where one has the possibility of combining media and politics.
I see GreenLeaks very much as a child of Berlin.

Social Banking 2.0: Does your professional background of you as a documentary filmer helps or is it unspecific to raise such an platform in a professional manner?

I have spent 15 years making documentaries about environmental themes for public broadcasters. During this time I have established an extensive network of contacts in both media and environmental politics and this network is now playing a very significant role in the birth of GreenLeaks.

As a documentary filmmaker I have always been concerned with how “information” can be transformed into “story”. In order to engage the public we have to express environmental information, which is often technical and dull, into “narrative”. We have to tell a story.
This experience is now definitely influencing how GreenLeaks intends to operate – how we intend to manage a story right down its’ life-cycle.

Social Banking 2.0: What is the „man“ (and woman) brain power you invest in that projects, and how will it grow?

Our work rests primarily on relationships. We have relationships with the media, with the public, and when we release information about corporations or government, we will nonetheless be in a kind of relationship with them – a relationship of holding them to account; of holding them responsible.

And we have, although we may never know them, a relationship with our sources. We have a duty of responsibility to our “sources”, to ensure that the risks they have taken in disclosing information are rewarded, with the knowledge that contributed to public debate. So we have a duty to ensure a story reaches as wide an audience as possible. So in this manner our investment is highly relationship-based.

Social Banking 2.0: Do you see the wikileaks principle a little bit „overhyped“ or will it change the society and economy, what do you expect in a realistic way?

I believe that WikiLeaks has already profoundly altered the manner in which information is used and the relationship between government-media-public is now in a state of flux – witness the revolutions happening in North Africa precisely because the people became privvy to certain information.

There is no going back to the time before WikiLeaks. Now every person sitting at a desk, who reads a document about what their company or organistion is doing and its environmental impact, might legitimately ask themselves the question: should I leak this?
The public are now acutely aware that they have the power to change the world through the release of information.

Social Banking 2.0: Thanks a lot, and good luck for all acitivities.

Thanks for your interest and support and stay in touch! Alles jut, Scott

Interview: Lothar Lochmaier

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Written by lochmaier

Februar 3, 2011 um 9:02 am

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